Satomi Matsuzaka

Greg Saunier and Satomi Matsuzaka of Deerhoof dive into their bold decision to remove their entire catalog from Spotify. They reveal that the move was sparked not by low royalties but by Spotify co-founder Daniel Ek's investments in AI military technology. The duo discusses prioritizing ethics over visibility, showcasing their latest single on Craigslist instead. They challenge listeners to consider alternative ways to support artists, even suggesting they'd prefer fans pirate their music over streaming it on toxic platforms.