Sasha Fegan interviews tech ethicists Tristan Harris, co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, and Aza Raskin, a pioneer in user experience design. They explore the explosive growth of AI and its societal implications since their last discussion, emphasizing the urgent need for regulation. The conversation highlights recent advancements in social media reform, including the Kids Online Safety Act, and delves into the balance between AI innovation and safety protocols, calling for accountability and cooperative solutions for a secure technological future.