In this engaging discussion, guests Sanni Paljakka, a psychologist and director of training at the Calgary Narrative Collective, and Tom Stone Carlson, a marriage and family therapist and professor, delve into the nuances of narrative therapy. They explore the power of counterstories and the impact of master narratives on personal identities. With insights from their book, they highlight the importance of storytelling in therapy and how it can foster justice and freedom. The conversation also touches on the intersections of love, creativity, and societal pressures in shaping our narratives.