Maria Karimji, a Karachi-based freelance reporter, and Sana Meher, a Pakistani journalist and author, dive into the complex perceptions surrounding Malala Yousafzai. They explore why Malala is celebrated in the West but faces skepticism in Pakistan, linking it to distrust of foreign influences. The duo discusses the Malala test as a measure of social attitudes, highlights the backlash against her advocacy, and examines how societal pressures uniquely affect women activists in Pakistan. Their insights shed light on the intricate dynamics of fame, activism, and local versus global narratives.