Samuel R. Bagenstos, a constitutional law expert and former White House counsel, joins Mark Joseph Stern of Slate, and KQED's Marisa Lagos to unpack the chaos sparked by Trump's federal funding freeze. They discuss how the order impacts critical programs like Medicaid and childcare, highlighting the constitutional tensions between executive action and congressional authority. Legal battles loom, as state responses intensify. The conversation also delves into the broader implications for federal agencies and essential services amidst a climate of uncertainty.