Julian Barbour, a renowned physicist known for his exploration of time, joins theoretical physicist Samuel Kuypers in a captivating discussion. They delve into the idea that time is not absolute, but shaped by moments. The duo contrasts Newton’s views with modern theories, exploring shape dynamics and cosmic evolution. They tackle entropy and the universe's heat death, while pondering free will versus determinism. Barbour's unexpected passion for Shakespeare adds a creative twist, enriching their philosophical reflections on existence and reality.