Sam Whiles, host of the Paul or Nothing podcast, joins Phoebe to examine the mythologies surrounding the marriages of McCartney and Lennon. They delve into cinematic portrayals, critiquing how films like 'The Linda McCartney Story' and 'John and Yoko: a Love Story' shape public perception. The conversation touches on gender dynamics, idealized love, and the contrasting narratives of iconic couples. They also discuss the overlooked contributions of female artists and the authenticity behind media representations of these legendary relationships.