Sam Kiley, World Affairs Editor at The Independent, and Judith Gough, former British ambassador to Ukraine, delve into the evolving diplomatic landscape of the Ukraine conflict. They discuss Trump’s recent meeting with Zelensky and the implications of his foreign policy shifts. The conversation highlights Ukraine's firm stance against territorial concessions, concerns over U.S. withdrawal, and rising public trust in Zelensky. With a focus on the complexities of peace negotiations, they unravel the geopolitical dynamics impacting both Ukraine and Russia.