In this insightful discussion, Sam Egan, a political podcast producer from The New Yorker, and Chaz Polson, an MMA fighter and roofing company employee, unpack Donald Trump's fraught relationship with the media. They delve into the historical context of media confrontation, revealing Trump's evolving rhetoric and its implications for public trust. Egan shares his research on Trump’s comments about journalists, while Polson offers a unique perspective on how this affects everyday people's views on credibility in journalism. Their candid chats highlight the critical state of media freedom today.