Sam Dunnewold, a tabletop game designer and podcaster, and Marc Majcher, an independent game designer with decades of experience, dive into the evolution of tabletop RPGs. They discuss the shift from long campaigns to short indie one-shots and the role of actual play podcasts in preserving game mechanics. The conversation highlights the importance of communication and safety at the table, contrasts procedural generation with authored narratives, and offers practical advice for aspiring RPG designers. It's a lively exploration of creativity in the indie RPG landscape!