Sam Barker, producer, DJ, and co-founder of the Leisure System label, dives into the exploration of human timing in electronic music. He discusses his innovative album, Stochastic Drift, and the creative process behind his collaboration with saxophonist Bendik Giske. Barker shares insights on balancing technology with human elements, the evolution of the Berlin music scene, and the optimistic potential of AI in music. He also muses on new live performance formats and the future of Leisure System, all while reflecting on the importance of collaborations in his creative journey.