Special guest Saci Lloyd joins the hosts to discuss talking to kids about climate. They delve into the dilemmas of discussing apocalypse with young people. The conversation becomes comedic as they touch on recycling, punching up, motivation, personal responsibility, Italy's low climate change preoccupation, and the importance of taking action. Pessimists thriving in crisis and humorous anecdotes are shared before the hosts express their gratitude and sign off.