Deb Haaland, former U.S. Secretary of the Interior and current governor of New Mexico, and Rue Mapp, conservation activist and founder of Outdoor Afro, discuss the critical importance of national parks in shaping cultural identity. They emphasize the threats posed by recent legislation aiming to dismantle public lands, particularly for marginalized communities. The conversation includes the economic benefits of preserving these spaces and advocates for inclusivity in outdoor access, stressing the role of public lands in fostering community and resilience.