Arun Kundnani, a writer on race, culture, and empire, discusses the inefficiency of the liberal tradition of anti-racism and the importance of addressing systemic structures. The podcast explores the racial division of labor driven by neoliberalism and corporate exploitation, as well as its impact on individualism and collective action. It emphasizes the need for organized collective action to challenge systemic structures rooted in racial capitalism and discusses the intertwining issues of racism, immigration, and neoliberalism.