In this discussion, TV critic Roxana Haddadi and NPR's Andrew Limbong delve into the latest HBO series The Penguin, featuring Colin Farrell's transformation as Oswald Cobb. They explore Gotham's dark underbelly, marked by a gripping turf war, and the impact of a crime boss's daughter, played by Cristin Milioti. The duo analyzes character complexity, power dynamics among goons, and the evolving portrayal of villains like the Penguin, mixing traditional traits with antihero elements. Their take on the series leaves listeners pondering its future.

Roxanna Haddadi, a TV critic for Vulture, dives into the chilling story behind the FX series Say Nothing, focusing on the abduction of Jean McConville by the IRA during the Troubles. The conversation explores the complexities of portraying armed resistance, the challenges of adapting deep narratives from books to screen, and the often-overlooked emotional nuances. Haddadi emphasizes the importance of understanding historical context while critiquing media representations, ultimately calling for richer, more personal storytelling.