In this engaging conversation, Ronnie Janoff-Bulman, Professor Emerita of Psychology, shares her insights on how trauma challenges our implicit beliefs and reshapes our understanding of reality. She explores the powerful connection between faith, motivation, and the human narrative, drawing on the biblical story of Job. They discuss the complexities of coping mechanisms, the critique of 'positive illusions,' and the importance of confronting harsh truths. Janoff-Bulman's profound expertise shines as she delves into the moral dimensions of belief systems and their impact on personal and communal responsibility.