So, do we like generics or not? Some people feared they’d be the end of the language. Others were very hopeful, and had clear use cases, and were thrilled about the feature coming to the language. It was also often touted as the reason a lot of people didn’t adopt Go. So what do we think now? Mat and Kris are joined by Roger Peppe and Bryan Boreham to discuss the state of Generics in Go. Join the discussionChangelog++ members save 1 minute on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps and databases close to your users. In minutes you can run your Ruby, Go, Node, Deno, Python, or Elixir app (and databases!) all over the world. No ops required. Learn more at fly.io/changelog and check out the speedrun in their docs. Typesense – Lightning fast, globally distributed Search-as-a-Service that runs in memory. You literally can’t get any faster! Featuring:Roger Peppe – GitHub, XBryan Boreham – XMat Ryer – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, XKris Brandow – GitHub, XShow Notes: New slices package Go 1.21 release notes Roger’s talk on unconstrained generics Roger’s proposal on type assertions Roger’s generics mini testing framework Mat’s mini testing framework Dishwasher video Dishwasher video v2 Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Egon Elbre and Roger Peppe join Mat for a conversation all about bloat (and how to avoid it). Expect talk of code bloat, binary bloat, feature bloat, and an even-more-bloated-than-usual unpopular opinion segment. Join the discussionChangelog++ members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Sourcegraph – Transform your code into a queryable database to create customizable visual dashboards in seconds. Sourcegraph recently launched Code Insights — now you can track what really matters to you and your team in your codebase. See how other teams are using this awesome feature at about.sourcegraph.com/code-insights Chronosphere – Chronosphere is the observability platform for cloud-native teams operating at scale. When it comes to observability, teams need a reliable, scalable, and efficient solution so they can know about issues well before their customers do. Teams choose Chronosphere to help them move faster than the competition. Learn more and get a demo at chronosphere.io. Honeycomb – Guess less, know more. When production is running slow, it’s hard to know where problems originate: is it your application code, users, or the underlying systems? With Honeycomb you get a fast, unified, and clear understanding of the one thing driving your business: production. Join the swarm and try Honeycomb free today at honeycomb.io/changelog Featuring:Egon Elbre – GitHub, LinkedIn, XRoger Peppe – GitHub, XMat Ryer – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, XShow Notes: CUE lang Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Roger Peppe and Bryan Boreham join Mat and Kris to discuss the state of Generics in Go, including benefits like cleaner code, solving problems with few lines of code, and simplifying processes with the slices package. They also explore limitations and challenges, potential performance implications, and technical aspects of implementing generics at compile time. The discussion covers unpopular opinions, code formatting, balance between simplicity and help, tech debt, debt management, risk-taking in interactions, and collaboration despite mistakes.