Roger Jin, a member of the post-training team at Nous Research, shares insights on the powerful Hermes 4 release and the intriguing PokerBots benchmark. Kwindla Kramer, founder of Daily, dives into OpenAI’s RealTime voice advancements. The duo discusses the resurgence of Codex and its exciting performance against competitors. They also touch on significant funding news, recent AI acquisitions, and the evolving landscape of AI models, highlighting challenges in multi-turn interactions and the importance of efficiency in voice technology.