Jigar Shah, Director of the Loan Programs Office at the Department of Energy, and Robinson Meyer, writer for New York Times Opinion, dive into the future of clean energy amidst political shifts. They discuss the impact of Biden's Inflation Reduction Act and how it could survive a potential Trump administration. Shah shares insights on innovative financing for green projects and the essential role of community relationships in successful manufacturing. They emphasize a resilient pathway to decarbonization, even in uncertain political landscapes.

Robinson Meyer, founding executive editor of Heatmap, discusses the structural decline of gas cars and the rise of EVs. China's EVs pose a threat to America's Big Three automakers. Biden aims for a green future made in America, but currently, China leads the EV market.