Rob T. Lee
Chief of Research and Chief AI Officer at the SANS Institute, with a long career in cybersecurity focused on training defenders and advising leaders on risk and secure AI adoption.
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Dec 23, 2025 • 48min
Sunlight on Shadow AI: When Security Learns to Tinker—Rob T. Lee from the SANS Institute on AI Risk
Rob T. Lee, Chief AI Officer at the SANS Institute, discusses the critical issue of shadow AI and its implications for security in organizations. He argues that a blanket 'no' on AI creates more risks and offers a 'lifeguard' approach to governance. Lee emphasizes the importance of hands-on training for executives and recommends micro-projects to foster security skills. With practical strategies like accountability partners and regular reviews, he outlines how companies can experiment safely while embracing AI, turning policy from obstruction into opportunity.
Sep 6, 2025 • 39min
Resilient Cyber w/ Rob T. Lee - Navigating AI's Impact on Cyber & the Workforce
Rob T. Lee, the Chief of Research and Chief AI Officer at the SANS Institute, dives into AI's transformative influence on cybersecurity and the workforce. He discusses the SANS Critical AI Security Guidelines, addressing the need for effective risk management in light of AI advancements. Lee highlights the dual nature of AI, noting both potential job displacement and new opportunities in cybersecurity governance. He emphasizes the importance of community collaboration and innovative training to adapt to this evolving landscape.
