In this conversation, Rob Meyer and Alexis Madrigal, both reporters from The Atlantic, delve into the harrowing early days of the COVID-19 pandemic. They reveal how a lack of reliable data and testing created chaos, leading to over a million deaths in the U.S. Their reporting spurred the COVID Tracking Project, a grassroots initiative that gathered critical data when federal agencies struggled. The duo emphasizes the urgent need for transparency and collaboration in public health to prepare for future pandemics.