Rick Perry, the 47th governor of Texas and former secretary of Energy, joins W. Bryan Hubbard, the first Chairman of the Kentucky Opioid Commission and a key advocate for Ibogaine research. They dive into the Kentucky Ibogaine Initiative to tackle the opioid crisis, discussing its potential benefits for veterans facing PTSD and addiction. The duo shares insights on the need for more clinical trials and legislative support for Ibogaine treatment. Their conversation highlights both personal experiences and the transformative power of plant medicine in mental health care.

Rick Perry, the longest-serving governor of Texas and former U.S. Secretary of Energy, shares his impactful journey in shaping the state's energy landscape. He discusses the importance of an 'all-of-the-above' energy strategy, advocating for nuclear power and innovative technologies like Small Modular Reactors. Perry highlights the balance between government and free-market principles, emphasizes bipartisan opportunities for clean energy, and presents creative solutions for Texas' water challenges. He also champions plant-based medicines for veterans' mental health.

Former Texas governor and Trump administration member Rick Perry discusses the conservative case for psychedelics as legal medicine for veterans and individuals with PTSD. He highlights Ibogaine as a potent substance and advocates for logical conversations on immigration reform. The podcast also explores the potential benefits of psychedelic therapy for trauma survivors and emphasizes the importance of proper diagnosis, dosing, guidance, and follow-up. The host concludes by recommending other Reason-produced podcast series.