Richard Evans, a prominent historian and author known for his insights into the Third Reich, discusses the chilling question of how much ordinary Germans knew about the Holocaust. He dives into the psyche and backgrounds of key Nazi figures like Himmler and Goebbels, exploring their motivations and moral complicity. The conversation also addresses the societal dynamics of post-war Germany, including the reluctance to confront its Nazi past and the evolving attitudes toward culpability. Evans weaves together personal narratives and broader historical contexts, shedding light on the complex interplay of perpetration and bystanding.

Martyn Ware and Richard Evans delve into the competitive nature of synth-pop bands, influences from artists like Peter Gabriel, OMD's impact on mainstream electronic music, and the significance of British music events on artists in the 80s. They discuss the craft of songwriting in the synth-pop genre and the launch of Richard Evans' book 'Listening to the Music the Machines Make, Inventing Electric Pop, 1978 to 1983'.

Join host Lyndsey Parker with guests Martyn Ware and Richard Evans as they delve into the vibrant synth-pop music scene of the 80s in Britain. Topics include the impact of synthesizers on music, encounters with David Bowie, the evolution of synth-pop music, and strategic management of synth-pop bands by Virgin Records.