Duncan Robinson, Brussels bureau chief for The Economist, and Richard Enzer, a correspondent based in Mexico, dive into the EU's ongoing struggles amid COVID-19. They discuss the existential crisis facing the bloc and the need for reform. In contrast, they examine Nayib Bukele's controversial rise in El Salvador, highlighting his dictatorial tendencies and mixed public perception. The conversation also touches on the intriguing yet misunderstood connection between sunlight exposure and COVID-19, shedding light on myths and realities surrounding the virus.