Richard Bartle, Co-Creator of MUD, and David Birch, FinTech expert, explore virtual identities, tokenization, the interplay between digital and physical worlds, and the difference between credentials and biometric identification in this captivating episode. They discuss how characters in virtual worlds differ from our real-world identity, the gamification of personalities on different platforms, and the potential impact of biometrics on identification. This thought-provoking conversation also touches on the exploration of gender in virtual worlds and the liberating and constraining aspects of gaming on individual identity.