Renowned theologian NT Wright, author Esau McCaulley, and Tim Mackie of The Bible Project discuss the intersection of race and the Bible's influence on the church. They delve into topics such as justice within a Christian framework, battling against injustice, exploring the complexity of the term 'Black' in the US, responsible biblical interpretation, and the book of Ephesians and its impact on Jewish and Gentile Christians.

Esau McCaulley, an author and associate professor at Wheaton College, dives deep into the complexities of faith shaped by pain and identity. He shares his personal narrative of navigating familial struggles and the impact of racism on his spiritual journey. The conversation explores forgiveness, emphasizing its transformative power in relationships, and reflects on how suffering can deepen one's faith. McCaulley also examines the dual realities of Black identity and the challenge of expressing authenticity within societal pressures, highlighting the resilience found in genuine encounters with God.