Rebecca Lavoie, co-host of Crime Writers On..., and Jonquilyn Hill, WAMU journalist and creator of Through the Cracks, discuss the appeal, pitfalls, and opportunities of true crime podcasts. They also explore Hill's new project, Through the Cracks, which challenges the fundamental mechanics of true crime. The discussion covers personal connections to the genre, the uncomfortable relationship with true crime, exploring societal gaps, challenges in investigative podcasting, and aspirations for the genre.