Hugo chats with Ravin Kumar, a Senior Research Data Scientist at Google Labs, whose career journey includes roles at SpaceX and Sweetgreen. They delve into the balance between technical rigor and practical utility in generative AI. Ravin shares insights on building scalable AI systems, such as using Gemma to optimize bakery operations. He emphasizes the critical role of UX in AI adoption, showcases the Notebook LM tool in action, and explores how AI can aid small businesses—demonstrating the transformative power of accessible technology.