Hogan Gidley, former White House Deputy Press Secretary, and David Pakman, progressive political commentator, delve into the political landscape, touching on immigration issues under both Trump and Biden, and the implications of inflation in the 2024 elections. They analyze post-verdict polls concerning Trump and discuss voter apathy. Ramin Setoodeh, co-editor of Variety, shares insights from his book on 'The Apprentice,' revealing how the show transformed Trump into a cultural icon and political figure, highlighting memorable moments and the show's impact on his presidency.