Caroline Abrahams from Age UK sheds light on the serious implications of the winter fuel allowance cuts for 2.5 million vulnerable seniors, discussing health risks and financial instability. Rafael Behr analyzes internal tensions within the Labour Party, questioning whether leaders are straying from party ideals. The conversation touches on the disconnect between political strategies, voter priorities, and the rising frustrations that could lead to populism. Together, they explore how these issues unfold amid the government's challenging narrative on policy.

The podcast delves into Michael Gove's redefinition of 'extremism' and the criticism it has stirred up. It explores the implications for democracy, inclusivity, and tolerance, sparking debates on political motivations, target groups, and challenges in defining extremism terms. The discussion also touches on therapy, controversial remarks within the Tory party, and the blurred line between aggressive language and incitement to violence in politics.

Guests Alex von Tunzelmann, a historian and author, and Rafael Behr, a Guardian columnist, join BBC veteran Gavin Esler to discuss the ten most influential figures of the 21st century. They explore the resurgence of the Great Man theory as individual leaders shape politics today. The conversation touches on Xi Jinping's distinct governance style, Trump's political comeback, and the rise of influencer culture with figures like Kim Kardashian. They also analyze the shifting American voter demographics and their effects on democracy.