In this thought-provoking discussion, Rachel Aviv, a staff writer for The New Yorker, delves into the life and legacy of Nobel Prize-winning author Alice Munro. Aviv reveals the hidden trauma within Munro's family, particularly the emotional fallout from her partner's abuse of their daughter, Andrea Skinner. The conversation explores the paradox of Munro's empathy as an artist juxtaposed with her personal betrayals, raising crucial questions about the cost of creativity and the complexities of familial relationships.