R.R. Reno, the Editor of First Things Magazine, joins Liel to tackle the complex interplay between forgiveness and justice in today's world. They discuss the essential role forgiveness plays in healing society’s deep wounds, contrasting it with pervasive anger and outrage. The conversation dives into the challenges of reconciling traditional religious views with modern secular perspectives. Reno highlights the transformative power of forgiveness and encourages introspection regarding our own grudges and the moral implications of letting go.

R. R. Reno and panel discuss Catholic social teachings on limited government, solidarity, and the role of the middle class in society. They explore topics like Tocqueville's paradox, cultural revival, and the crisis of the West. The conversation also covers evangelical support for Trump, racial divide in America, and the impact of power on religious communities.

Authors and scholars Mary Eberstadt and R. R. Reno delve into the impacts of the sexual revolution, state intervention, and the role of family dynamics in society. They discuss the importance of responsible citizenship, the historical experience of Catholics in America, the crisis of permanence in the West, and emphasizing strong family and church institutions amidst societal changes.