In this engaging discussion, Josh Treviño, a Latin American geopolitics expert, and R.J. Pestritto, a scholar on the administrative state, dive into Nicolás Maduro's capture and its implications for Venezuela and U.S. foreign policy. Treviño breaks down the complexity of narco-state dynamics, while critiquing past presidential approaches to drug-related regimes. Pestritto examines the administrative state's rise, emphasizing its impact during the COVID era and potential congressional reforms. The conversation blends geopolitics with governance, making for a thought-provoking listen.