Joining the discussion are Pyotr Zilevski, Turkey correspondent for The Economist, and Simon Rabinovich, the US economics editor. They dive into the hopeful turning point in the Kurdish conflict as Abdullah Ocalan calls for disarmament. Expect insights into the impacts of Donald Trump's tariffs on the American economy, and a fun take on the trendy pairing of caviar with chicken nuggets, showcasing how luxury foods are evolving. It's an engaging blend of geopolitics, economics, and culinary trends!

Chris Lockwood, Europe editor for The Economist, and Pyotr Zilevsky, the publication's Turkey correspondent, discuss the dire refugee crisis stemming from Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Over a million Ukrainians have fled their homes, with touching stories of their harrowing journeys. They also explore Turkey's intricate relationship with Russia, highlighting its balancing act of support for Ukraine while maintaining ties with Moscow. Additionally, they reflect on the life of Christina Calderon, the last speaker of the Yaghan language, emphasizing the importance of cultural preservation.