We hear calls for systemic change, but what does that look like? This hour, TED speakers share stories of taking on institutions — from schools, to medicine, to policing — so they work for everyone. Guests include economist Emily Oster, lawyer Priti Krishtel, and social psychologist Phillip Atiba Goff.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Economist Emily Oster shares insights on data collection challenges during the pandemic, lawyer Priti Krishtel advocates for patent system reform, and social psychologist Phillip Atiba Goff explores subconscious biases in policing. The podcast delves into reimagining public safety, advocating for systemic changes in schools and healthcare.

Priti Krishtel, a health justice lawyer, explores the convoluted relationship between high drug prices in the U.S. and an outdated patent system that favors big pharmaceutical companies. She explains how these companies exploit small changes to existing drugs to secure more patents, thereby hindering competition and accessibility. Priti advocates for five key reforms, aiming to redesign the patent system to better serve public health needs. Her insights shed light on the urgent need for change in the fight for affordable medications.