Annabelle Hirsch and Poppy Damon explore women's history through objects like cave paintings and Kim Kardashian's ring. They discuss the challenges of scaling a business, women's movement and safety, and the need for a new perspective on history. Excitement builds for the upcoming audiobook for A History of Women in 101 Objects.

For this preview of Intelligence Squared's new podcast, VS, two critically lauded TV shows are under the microscope. Succession and The White Lotus have both depicted privilege and the lifestyles of the ultra rich through cuttingly satirical comedy-drama over the past couple of years. But which binge fest do we love to hate the most? Ania Magliano is a comedian whose recent show, Absolutely No Worries If Not, was a sell-out hit at the Edinburgh Fringe. She’s also one of the writers behind Amelia Dimoldenberg’s much-loved Chicken Shop Date and is the co-host of If It Is to Be Said – a podcast all about Succession. Poppy Damon is a journalist, crime podcaster and screenwriter, whose creations include Pseudocide – a podcast about people who fake their own deaths – and the upcoming Agatha Christie and the Dandelion Poisoner. Both are storytellers who value wit, timing and maybe the odd plot twist too but for Ania, Succession is the ultimate satire. For Poppy, it's The White Lotus that takes the top spot. Coco Khan is our host in charge of the remote and there can only be one winner. Search out VS on your podcast app to follow the show and enjoy more new episodes every week over the coming season.https://intelligencesquared.com/vs/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Labour MP Caroline Flint joins the podcast to discuss Brexit negotiations and the challenges of aligning personal beliefs with party policies. The episode covers the dynamics within Parliament, strategic language in speeches, and a light-hearted banter on ongoing Brexit discussions.