Phoebe Gavin, a career coach specializing in job searches, and Rachel Mead-Smith, a writer who chronicled job hunting in her book, dive deep into the emotional turmoil of job hunting. They discuss the degrading worker-employer contract, the myth of ghost jobs, and the misrepresentation of labor market stats. Phoebe offers tactical advice while emphasizing the importance of identity beyond work. They also explore building community during job searches, setting boundaries with loved ones, and reframing rejection as part of the journey.