Phill Lawson-Shanks, managing director of the Nomad Futurist Foundation, and Phillip Koblence, co-founder of the same foundation, discuss the evolving landscape of the data center industry. They dive into the rising demands of AI workloads and innovative solutions to power and cooling challenges. The conversation emphasizes the importance of nurturing community-driven talent pipelines and integrating digital infrastructure education into curricula. They also explore the feasibility of AI factories and the shift to modular designs for future-proofing data centers.