Phil Klay

Phil Klay, a Marine Corps veteran and National Book Award-winning author, discusses the troubling implications of a potential second Trump administration on military ethics. He highlights how militaries have historically been politicized, potentially eroding crucial norms. The conversation dives into the personal motivations behind military service and the moral dilemmas faced by veterans. Klay also reflects on the emotional toll of modern warfare, interweaving themes of faith, loss, and broader ethical challenges in contemporary conflicts.