Mark Driscoll, a controversial pastor, joins a diverse group including scholar Karen Swallow Prior and media producer Phil Cooke, to tackle the scandals plaguing evangelical churches. They discuss the dangers of charismatic leadership that leads to abuse and the urgent need for accountability. The conversation dives into the intersection of faith and politics, addressing the fallout of Christian nationalism. Together, they explore the resilience of faith within marginalized communities and the hope for a transformative rebirth in church culture.