Petro Yatsenko, a Ukrainian spokesman for the coordination for the treatment of prisoners of war, discusses the success of the 'I want to live' hotline that helps Russian soldiers defect. Simon Shuster, author and Time correspondent, talks about his new book 'The Showman' and how President Zelensky has changed during the war. The podcast also explores the escape process for Russian defectors, the risks they face, and Zelensky's surprising transformation from a comedian to a wartime leader.