Peter McIlvenna, a commentator on contemporary British issues, and Mary Beard, a distinguished scholar of Roman history, dive into pressing societal topics. They discuss Andrew Tate's potential designation as the UK's first misogyny terrorist, examining the broader implications for free speech and public safety. Mary Beard critiques modern historical narratives and explores biases in how ancient figures are represented. The conversation questions the effectiveness of current justice policies, particularly regarding violence against women and the influence of social media on perceptions of gender.