Helen Whately, Conservative MP and shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, is joined by Danny Kruger, former MP turned Reform UK strategist, and Lord Peter Lilley, a veteran political figure. They delve into pressing welfare reforms, emphasizing the moral imperative to get individuals back to work. Whately discusses her push against rising sickness claims among youth, while Kruger reflects on his party defection and critiques the Conservatives' hesitance. Lilley warns of the dangers of the ECHR's influence on judicial politics, advocating for a decisive policy shift.