Joining the discussion is Pauline Bartolone, a dedicated reporter focusing on the complexities of redeveloping old military bases in the Bay Area. She highlights the transformation of sites like Mare Island and Treasure Island into housing and community spaces. The conversation delves into the intricate processes of environmental cleanup and the balance between modern development and preserving history. Bartolone also shares insights on community engagement and the unique challenges faced in bringing these abandoned spaces back to life.