Mayeni Jones, a BBC correspondent in Johannesburg, and Paul Williams, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Reading, dive deep into the aftermath of a tragic building fire in Johannesburg. They discuss the ongoing struggles faced by survivors, highlighting the urgent need for improved housing conditions. The duo also explores how climate change is increasing flight turbulence, raising questions about air travel safety. Additionally, they compare divorce laws in Uganda and South Africa, debating the implications of no-fault vs. fault-based divorces.