Psychology experts Daniel Batson and Paul Bloom, along with businessman Paul Polman, discuss the differences between empathy and sympathy, exploring emotional support for grieving individuals and the challenges of understanding others' feelings. They share personal anecdotes, analyze the societal impact of these emotions, and delve into the complexities of showing compassion. The podcast also touches on historical contexts, scriptural references, and word origins related to empathy and sympathy.

Diplomat Christiana Figueres and former Unilever CEO Paul Polman discuss the importance of the 1.5 degrees Celsius target in fighting climate change. They explore the dilemma between 1.5 and 2 degrees Celsius, the impact of historical notions of superiority on nature, and the need for corporations to shift towards sustainable profit. The conversation also delves into embracing pain for social change and the intersection of personal responsibility and systemic transformation.

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. Last week Paul Dickinson, Dylan Tanner and our guests explored some of the good, the bad, and the downright dark side of government action on climate policy, or perhaps that should be inaction. This week, with the help of co-host Fiona Macklin, part two of Lifelines vs Deadlines will go beyond the politics and speak to industry and city leaders, lawyers and youth activists on the need for collective support around regulatory lifelines if the deadlines, climate science has set for us are to be met. Expert guests including: Mark Watts, Executive Director at C40 Cities Lord Adair Turner, Chair of the Energy Transitions Commission Paul Polman, Business leader, campaigner and co-author of ‘Net Positive: how courageous companies thrive by giving more than they take’ Georgina Beasley, Secretary General at Net Zero Lawyers Alliance Joshua Amponsem, Founder, Green Africa Youth Organization and Co-Director - Youth Climate Justice Fund Shyla Raghav, Co-Founder, Chief Portfolio and Partnership Officer at TIME CO2 Dr Ellen Quigley, Special Adviser (Responsible Investment) to the Chief Financial Officer and Principal Research Associate (Climate Risk & Sustainable Finance) at University of Cambridge Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website. NOTES AND RESOURCES Paul Dickinson, Founder Chair at CDP LinkedIn Fiona Macklin, Senior Adviser, Groundswell at Global Optimism LinkedIn Dylan Tanner, Executive Director at InfluenceMap Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Mark Watt, Executive Director at C40 Cities Twitter | Instagram Lord Adair Turner, Chair of the Energy Transitions Commission Twitter Energy Transitions Commission Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Polman, Business leader, campaigner and co-author of ‘Net Positive: how courageous companies thrive by giving more than they take’ Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Georgina Beasley, Secretary General at Net Zero Lawyers Alliance LinkedIn Net Zero Lawyers Alliance LinkedIn Joshua Amponsem, Founder, Green Africa Youth Organization and Co-Director - Youth Climate Justice Fund Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram Shyla Raghav, Co-Founder, Chief Portfolio and Partnership Officer at TIME CO2 Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | InstagramTIME and TIME CO2 Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Dr Ellen Quigley, Special Adviser (Responsible Investment) to the Chief Financial Officer and Principal Research Associate (Climate Risk & Sustainable Finance) at University of Cambridge LinkedIn Paper: Universal Ownership in Practice: A Practical Investment Framework for Asset Owners Paper: Universal Ownership and the Polycrisis: Social Norms, Feedback Loops, and the Double HermeneuticCredits: Series Producer: Catherine Harte Exec Producer: Sarah Thomas Producer/Sound Design/Editor: Clay Carnill Production Coordinator: Mandy Clark Social Media Manager: Kam-Mei Chak Communications Manager: Zoe Tcholak-Antitch Operations Manager: Katie Bradford It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Please follow us on social media! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn

Former Unilever CEO, Paul Polman, discusses the escalating fossil fuel fiasco at COP28. Other topics include collaboration between public and private sectors in addressing health issues, the significance of a health-themed day at the conference, and advocacy efforts for promoting sustainability in the healthcare sector.

Paul Polman, former CEO of Unilever, led a dazzling career in consumer goods, from Procter & Gamble to Nestlé to the British multinational. His experience fending off a hostile takeover bid taught him that the doctrine of shareholder capitalism is wrong. He believes there’s a better way of doing business, one that embraces all stakeholders — not just stockholders — and improves the environment. He cofounded the consultancy IMAGINE to further sustainable goals, and he shares his advice for the next generation of leaders. With Andrew Winston, Polman wrote the new book “Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More than They Take”.