In a dynamic conversation, Paul Dickinson, founder of CDP and co-host of Outrage & Optimism, along with Tom Rivett-Carnac, former architect of the Paris Agreement, unpack key insights ahead of COP29. They explore the evolving role of businesses in climate policy, sharing how corporate actions can drive ambitious climate goals. The discussion highlights the shift from exclusive negotiations to inclusive engagement, emphasizing the necessity for proactive decarbonization and industry collaboration in addressing the climate crisis.