In this conversation, game designers Patrick Traynor, known for Patrick's Parabox, and Frank Lantz, creator of Universal Paperclips, delve into the block-pushing puzzle game Block Koala from the UFO 50 collection. They discuss the game's mechanics, community feedback, and the evolution of Sokoban-style puzzles. With humor and insight, they unpack the challenges faced by players and the nuances of puzzle design. Their reflections on player engagement and the impact of artistic choices make for a lively and engaging dialogue.