We have a little surprise in the feed today: An episode of "Land of the Giants," which is all about Tesla this season. Former Verge transportation reporter Tamara Warren and former Jalopnik EIC Patrick George, who are both deeply sourced in the world of cars, host, and every episode has reporting and insight about Tesla that really hasn’t been shared before. It was ahead of the EV competition in basically every way for a long time. But the question Tamara and Patrick want to answer is: Is Tesla still winning by default? And where is the competition pulling ahead now that every carmaker is doing EVs? I joined them in this episode to discuss how modern cars, especially EVs, are being totally rethought as rolling computers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guest Patrick George, editor-in-chief of InsideEVs.com and contributor to The Atlantic and The Verge, discusses whether hybrid cars are helping or hindering our transition to electric vehicles. They explore the limitations of charging infrastructure, the cost and benefits of EVs compared to gas cars, and the differences between traditional hybrids and plug-in hybrids. They also touch on President Biden's efforts to promote EV adoption and the challenges automakers face in meeting fuel economy and emissions rules.

Patrick George, editor-in-chief of InsideEVs.com and contributor to The Atlantic and The Verge, discusses the challenges of transitioning from gas cars to fully electric cars, the rise of hybrid cars as a middle ground solution, the current market share and pricing of electric vehicles and hybrids, the benefits and challenges of hybrid cars, and the path to electric vehicle adoption.