Patrick Debois, a DevOps pioneer known for his innovative approaches, dives into the future of software development alongside Simon Maple, an expert in Java and AI integration. They discuss the shift towards aligning development with business intentions for impactful outcomes. The conversation highlights the importance of creating clear specifications to bridge technical and non-technical teams while leveraging clean data to enhance decision-making. Emphasizing collaborative practices, they explore the evolving role of developers in an AI-driven landscape, promoting a culture of innovation.